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Post by bnr on Jun 8, 2009 11:38:35 GMT -5
Hey, I've been looking on Youtube recently and different encapsulation carpet cleaning methods, and companies. Xerion Solutions' EncapSolution sounds really good to me. I was just wondering if anyone else has tried their products? I've contacted the company to get prices. The chemical comes in basically little dissolvable "tea bags" that get mixed with hot water in a pressure sprayer. Because they ship there stuff as a powder it's lighter, so cheaper shipping costs. Anyways $125 of chemical does 30 000 to 45000 sqft. Uses approx. 1 gallon of water/1000 sqft. And they claim it requires NO post vacuuming. (sounds odd to me, because how do you get the dirt out? I would deffinitly vacuum afterwards). Check out their site, and post your thoughts, www.xerionsolutions.com/ also there sister company's site. www.rapiddry.com/thanks. Brent BNR Commercial Cleaning
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Post by Grizzly on Jun 8, 2009 20:33:47 GMT -5
I agree, the no vacumming sounds fishy, as I understand encapsulation,the solution forms a "plastic" for want of a better term bubble around the dirt molecules and they fall from t he carpet fibre. This is then vacuumed up with a good vacuum after treatment. The process also protects the carpet fibre from restaining to a certain degree. Biggest benefit is the drying time and the small use of moisture , leading to no wicking back of stains into the carpet fibres. I have used the process with good results on tight looped nylon commercial carpet in the banks that we do.
Bill
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Post by bnr on Jun 11, 2009 0:38:09 GMT -5
I was talking to a buddy today that has a portable HWE machine. And I was asking him if he's had any experience with Encap. He's never tried the stuff, and doesn't know too much about it, but he was asking if the crystals left on the carpet fibers after vacuuming would break down and cause wear of the carpet fibers. Kinda' of how sand will wear the carpet down. I couldn't answer the question, but I understand where he's coming from. Anyone got any guesses? I've heard some guys cleaning the same carpet for approx 10 years, and they think encap actually increases the life of the carpet. It's all new to me. But anyone with experience or a guess, I'd love to here it.
Thanks Brent
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Post by Grizzly on Jun 11, 2009 7:33:04 GMT -5
;DBrent as I said above it is necessary to do a good vacuuming after the application of solution and scrubbing of the carpet. The whole idea is that you can dry vacuum the residue up after your process. Some guys I know will HWE after encapping but I always felt this defeated the purpose of encap to begin with.
Bill
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Post by mikeh on Jun 11, 2009 21:51:57 GMT -5
Hi Brent I have a cimex rotary system and I do use Encap. Using any low speed rotary unit with a white fibrepad works best. The encap solution must be applied lightly. If you have foaming, then you are applying too much. Encap is formulated to coat the entire carpet with a light cleaning agent and a crystal stainguard. Anything that is dirt or debris is also coated with the stainguard. The rotary breaks the dirt free from the carpet and the Encap prevents the dirt from reattaching itself. When it dries the dirt can only sit there wait to be vaccummed. The crystal forms completely around the dirt preventing the grinding action that would normally occur. Notes: Encap only cleans about 1/8" of the fibre. Only use for commercial grade carpet or for carpet that is so bad that the client has nothing to lose! Its best used in extreme traffic areas where road tar, grease etc. is severe. Any other questions, then feel free to contact me. Mike - Wish Away Carpet Cleaning
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Post by bnr on Jun 13, 2009 13:08:57 GMT -5
Thanks everyone for your comments.
My next question is what do you guys feel is a 'good' vacuum. I've only used cheap Dirt Devils, and oooold electroluxes. I'm bidding on a 6800 sqft accountants office, so I'm thinking of buy a good (possibly wide area) vacuum. But I don't want to waist money on cheap vacuums, I'm willing to put some good cash out on a good vacuum to do the jobs right here. And mostly, using the encap and swing machine is only part of the job, if I can't suck the crystalized dirt out, I might as well not even do the job. So let me have it. good vacuums?
Brent
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Post by mikeh on Jun 24, 2009 21:11:32 GMT -5
Brent, for a job of this size, I would recommend using a pile lifter. They are expensive but you will find making one pass is equal to 40 passes with a stock vacuum. The oversized, full bristle brushes pick up everything. As far as stock vacuums go, I have always used the Hoover Windtunnel for smaller jobs. The Hoover company seems to go overboard when they build their machines. The Windtunnel was originally made for pro's until they realized that there was a market for it on the mainstream.
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