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Post by speedster on Feb 19, 2006 20:50:31 GMT -5
Hello all, first of all nice site! I got a call to give an estimate for a couple of retail stores that have different types of flooring wood, ceramic and concrete and I was asked If I can make them look any better. I have a couple of questions: 1)The ceramic tile is it of to put a sealer for a better shine or just wash with a buffer? 2)Wood floor is there anything I can apply to shine more or even buff it? 3)Concrete floor looks very dusty, can I apply a sealer of some sort to look cleaner and shinier? I have no problem with vinyl flooring but kinda new to the above. Thanks in advance!!!
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Post by Kevin on Feb 19, 2006 21:07:13 GMT -5
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Post by Krystal Clean Queen on Mar 15, 2006 0:18:10 GMT -5
Hi everyone! Does anyone have any information and/or experience servicing a gymnasium? I sure need some help here. Thanx in advance! Krystal Queenie
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Post by Grizzly on Mar 15, 2006 7:48:56 GMT -5
DO NOT PUT SEALER ON CERAMIC!. If you do, you will be facing a maintenance problem. The finish will consistently walk off and you will be left with finish on part of the floor and no finish in the walk off area. This will require you to strip the entire floor and refinish on a consistent basis. For the concrete floor, before you put any kind of sealer down, make sure and auto scrub to get clean. If the concrete is in rough shape, (ie.the initial membrane gone and the concrete broken out in places), you're faced with an ongoing problem.
Krystal Queen: Need to know what kind of flooring before can give you any advice. Bill
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Post by Krystal Clean Queen on Mar 15, 2006 17:33:30 GMT -5
The gymnasium is a vinyl tile and I thought at first that the lines that define the basketball court were tape, it turns out to be hard rubber or a vinyl also. My experience with floors tells me that a thorough stripping to clean and remove dirt and scratches, etc. first and then 3 coats of hard wax or some kind of acrylic to seal and finish the floor, should last 6t months maybe??!! Then once a quarter of so high speed buffing to maintain in the interim. Am I close? I was also trying to find out about what type of equipment is out there - there was some kind of dinosaur in the building when we first got there but it's gone now. I think it was some kind of wash and dry type thing with a big roller....... I don't know for sure. I didn't get a good look at it. Is there anyone out there who knows?? I have to meet with the director on Monday - I have most of what this bid will contain in an outline but this is what has had me concerned. I think they will award me this bid but this is a concern for the leaders. I'm thankful in advance for your input. Blessings! Krystal Queenie
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Post by logan5127 on Mar 15, 2006 20:10:07 GMT -5
Krystal,You are very close. I do a gym just as you described. We first stripped it to remove finish from factory and then put 4 coats of finish on it. We buff it once a month with a propane buffer. It has been almost a year since we stripped and finished it and still looks good. Be aware if you are going to be mopping it , there will be several black marks from shoes . It takes 3 to 4 hours to mop and buff. We charge $145 time. This gym belongs to a local church so we gave them a little discount. At regular price it would be around $200. Be sure to inform them of how they should maintain it between your service calls. For example on the job I have , I showed the maintenance person what to use in mop water,how to mop and how to get up some of the black marks. If a floor is well maintained it will hold up a lot longer and make your service call a lot easier. As far as equipment ; there are automatic scrubbers that put down solution , scrub and vacuums up. Also Batter powered buffers and propane buffers of different sizes. I would not recommend using and electric buffer unless you plan on spending a lot more time.
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Post by Grizzly on Mar 15, 2006 20:20:35 GMT -5
Also be prepared that the coloured lines may very well be coloured vinyl tile and bleed a bit when you strip the floor.
Bill
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Post by logan5127 on Mar 15, 2006 20:24:14 GMT -5
Good point Bill, The one I stripped bled on the orange, red, and blue. Makes a mess of the mops. Be sure to keep floor wet when stripping it so that the colors will squeegie off well, then rinse well with a neutral cleaner and squeegie that off as well. Assuming that you don't have an automatic scrubber.
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Post by Stephan on Oct 25, 2006 15:28:13 GMT -5
I'm going to revisit this post... Kevin, how does this product work? Can you just pour it on a small area and use a flat mop and then repeat until finished (kinda like finishing a VCT floor)? I've been asked if I could get the scratches out and make this floor shine They asked if I could sand it and refinish it, but I told them I would look into it and see if there is something else that can be done instead of sanding. Kevin, how does this product work?
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Post by Kevin on Oct 25, 2006 17:43:03 GMT -5
What is the floor used for? Looks like bar stools. Yes it is applied same as finish. Light coats.
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Post by Stephan on Oct 25, 2006 20:10:34 GMT -5
It's used as a general "standing" area where people wait to get on the ice and curl. There are some chairs, but the stay mostly along the walls. What would you wood veterans say about the above picture? I'll have to go back and look but if the scratches are not in the wood (I don't know if that 's possible) can the floor be saved without stripping or sanding?
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Post by Mike R. on Oct 26, 2006 0:41:56 GMT -5
If I were doing this floor I would screen it w/ a fine screen and then w/ fine sand paper. If not there is going to be A LOT of imperfections in the floor when sealed and finished if that is the way you are going to go.
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Post by executive1 on Nov 28, 2006 22:51:27 GMT -5
All depends how deep are the scratches are.I would lightly sand all the floor and seal it then refinish it looks hard to do but its very easy to do. Are those scratches or the wood color has faded? www.woodfloorsonline.com Luis Luis
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Post by tmb0309 on Aug 1, 2007 13:28:16 GMT -5
Hi, I did a walk thru for an office job. I have done only residential so far. There are two very small bathrooms 2 stalls each. The floors are very dirty I think they are linoleum. Could possibly be vinyl flooring. Carpet cleaner with 409 (mixed) was spilled in one bathroom. leaving a nice clean spot. It seems to be a white floor but is various shades of gray right now. How should I clean these? I don't have flooring equipment. Just mop and bucket. It's such a small area I thought I could do it by hand. I have done some pretty bad residential kitchens the same size and had to scrub by hand. What do you think? This is only for the initial. What do I seal linoleum with that will make it shiny after I dull it with the cleaning and scrubbing? and if its vinyl flooring? Also not to sound dumb but how do I tell the difference between linoleum and vinyl? How much would you charge for this part of the initial? Thanks please help!!!!! Trina www.staycleancleaning.net
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Post by Kevin on Aug 2, 2007 5:29:59 GMT -5
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