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Post by glassguy on Feb 1, 2008 16:08:13 GMT -5
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Post by logan5127 on Feb 1, 2008 17:47:54 GMT -5
l would guess at this to be around $4,000 a time ,3 times a year, If I where to clean them all both sides. Thats just a rough estimate without seeing the actual building and windows and that is if they where in my area. I would also try to get them at least 3 times a year. I would give a higher price if they are only willing to do one time. Also if you use photo bucket then you can copy and paste the img( ) in your post and the pic will show up here.
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Post by glassguy on Feb 1, 2008 18:48:07 GMT -5
HI Thanks I'll attempt the photo fix later. I appreciate the bid estimate. I am also trying to figure out what to include in my bidding processes. For instance if the dealer would like to have a part of the dealership done, or if we go to contract where we'll do the entry ways weekly and garage bays monthly and so on. I believe I have a good idea on how to work in fuel costs, it is real close to our shop. Many Thanks.
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Post by glassguy on Feb 24, 2008 18:19:51 GMT -5
l would guess at this to be around $4,000 a time ,3 times a year, If I where to clean them all both sides. Thats just a rough estimate without seeing the actual building and windows and that is if they where in my area. I would also try to get them at least 3 times a year. I would give a higher price if they are only willing to do one time. Also if you use photo bucket then you can copy and paste the img( ) in your post and the pic will show up here. Hi Dan well in the learning process I Now know that the job will be for the outside windows. Their is a Janitorial service that holds the contract for the interior,. Although it is unclear about the front of the store where the real tall rows are. Could you give me an idea on what to bid and an idea on how you arrived at that number. I am having trouble trying to figure out the bidding curve with the by the hour figure VS per pane. It seems to be problematic with store fronts 5 windows $15 vs $50 per hour. It would only take 5-6 minutes for me to clean these windows and at that rate it would be really high. I am just having difficulty worrying about bidding too high while at the same time bidding too low? Many Thanks in Advance. The front of the store is basically the shot with the guy walking mirrored, the side has another pair of window sets, and the back side of the store has 13 garage bay doors you can see the both in the side picture and the interior service area where the sun is really bright. I would like to be able to figure out how to bid the entire service area, as it looks pretty bad and it is obvious that it is not cared for regularly.
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Post by logan5127 on Feb 24, 2008 19:15:09 GMT -5
Tell me something, what price did you come up with? why? The amount of windows they give you does affect the price.
My advice, Don't worry so much about being high. If they had low bidders they would already have someone. If I were to bid the outsides and they could be done with a pole then I would bid around $4 a pane. If had to use ladder than it would be around $8 a pane because a ladder is a pain. Now that is me if I were bidding but its not me , its you. How much do you think you would clean them for? How much do you think is a fair price for the high risk, high workmans comp, high caution around entrances, and doing a job that no one else wants to do? Why do you think the inside company does not want to do the outsides? Have they asked them? Have you asked why? When something doesn't make since ask questions to clarify the whys. Perhaps the inside company is to high, the windows have something on them they can't get off, or some other reason that may change your price. I always believe that if I am doing a job that no one else will even bid on then I am going to make good on that job and that it is justified.
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Post by logan5127 on Feb 24, 2008 19:21:45 GMT -5
Another note for you and all to think about. You do have competition. All competitors do not have great ethics. Someone in your area or surrounding areas may recognize the photos and may be watching these post to see what you are bidding. It is good I think to maybe mis direct there way of thinking a little just in case. So , do not tell me what you are actually bidding on this job.
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Post by glassguy on Feb 24, 2008 21:26:35 GMT -5
Another note for you and all to think about. You do have competition. All competitors do not have great ethics. Someone in your area or surrounding areas may recognize the photos and may be watching these post to see what you are bidding. It is good I think to maybe mis direct there way of thinking a little just in case. So , do not tell me what you are actually bidding on this job. Hi I appreciate The sound advice. Oddly all of my guys are from other companies in the surrounding area. I am very familiar with their poor ethics and battlefield tactics. Like one company carries an agreement with a lift company that they have their lifts to use for a special rate provided they must allow other companies, entities, etc. to rent them from them. Well this company uses the renting application to find out what the other company wants to use it for and delays giving it to them, then they go bid the job out from under them as they can get the job done now. Really sucks. But my crew and I would like to make an honest difference there is plenty of work here. We just took over a janitorial companies Sub work for stuff out of their reach. Honestly I think the company that does the dealership falls under the same category. I have talked with the owners and they have never done the high stuff. It seems the same way with a couple of companies around here. Now we have some national players in the area for window cleaners. But they are chasing the big business parks and theres alot of little guys hitting up most of the strips. Again I appreciate your advice and I'll use it wisely.
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