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Post by Crowz on May 28, 2005 13:45:15 GMT -5
Thank Goodness! LOL! Ya, anything over 10,000 we would bid (have never gottenn one yet) by the square foot, less would be by time and other factors.
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Post by Crowz on May 27, 2005 12:55:14 GMT -5
Boy, New Jersey is EXPENSIVE We clean a car dealership 3000 sq ft, 3 times a week and charge $50.00 a visit!
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Post by Crowz on May 11, 2005 18:19:27 GMT -5
We have a few factors to consider when bidding a job. Square feet, frequency, furniture to be moved, number of bathrooms, distance to the job, etc.. We have a standard cleaning package and potential clients are asked to add or subtract from the list to customize their needs..... this also is considered in the price.
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Post by Crowz on May 13, 2005 12:39:33 GMT -5
I personally would not drive an hour for an account unless it paid BIG. That is 2 hours drive time that I could have cleaned almost 2 of my nearby accounts in and made over a hundred. Naw, I wouldn't say it's worth it.
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Post by Crowz on May 25, 2005 19:28:08 GMT -5
I am glad now that we didn't get the VA contract. It was granted to a outfit based in Bullhead City... 30 miles from the clinic... at $1090.66 per month! I don't see how they can make ANY profit at all. We bid at $1200.00 and we are less than a mile away from the job ... still we would have been barely breaking even.
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Post by Crowz on May 15, 2005 3:20:19 GMT -5
Yes, all paperwork was in order. We were under-bid. We bid $1200.00 per month and low bidder was another Co. who bid $1090.66 per month. Oh well.... BTW, we are a member of the chamber of commerce and they advertise for us for cost of membership on their website and in their printed guide. The VA actually called US after they looked at the chamber website and asked if we would like to bid. I guess you could go to your local gvmt websites to find out what is open and bid-able.
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Post by Crowz on May 13, 2005 12:34:40 GMT -5
Well, we lost the VA clinic bid. I don't know how as we bid $1200.00 a month to do all the basics ( 7 restrooms in this place) 5 days a week, plus wash ALL windows inside and out anually, strip and wax ALL tile floors (about half the facility @ 4000 square feet total), WASH ALL WALLS annually, clean lobby carpet monthly and whole facility 2x a year, spray & buff floors daily, clean wheelchairs & upholstered furniture bi-anually, etc. ....... I can't understand how anyone could bid less and make any profit! We figured it would take 2 of us 2 to 3 hours a night.... Oh well, I wish who ever got it luck! A gov. contract sure would have looked good on credit apps & reference list, but we couldn't do it for less.
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Post by Crowz on May 3, 2005 11:08:56 GMT -5
TEXTO.K. thanx!
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Post by Crowz on Apr 29, 2005 10:08:12 GMT -5
guess I coulda put this in the last post..... That is exactly what I am asking. Do gvmnt agencies want a full breakdown by the year? The guy who called didnt' say...... Guess I'll do the whole enchilada! Perhaps our in town contact knows this. Will ask her when we do visual for estimate today or monday. thanx again!
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Post by Crowz on Apr 29, 2005 10:04:27 GMT -5
Thanx for the link....I was hoping for a downloadable version though as the bid has to be in by May 6th Guess I could just go to Home Depot and Diamond Janitorial Supply and browse. Need a price for the bid.
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Post by Crowz on Apr 28, 2005 17:36:05 GMT -5
Hi! I am new to this board. Crowz Cleaning has been in business since the first of the year. Yesterday we got a call for an estimate on a government contract... a 4000 square foot medical out-patient VA facility. I have no idea how to bid this. They want basic daily cleaning 5 days a week, then weekly, monthly semi-annually, and annually. Can someone give me a clue???Also, how do I get a list of EPA registered disinfectants/cleaners that are labled effective against HIV and HBV? Looked on the EPA website and all I got was a headache! Thanx!
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Post by Crowz on Jun 13, 2005 16:31:47 GMT -5
The worst commercial account we had is one we currently have. A car dealership we clean 3x's a week. We don't clean the service department, but we do clean the service/waiting area, offices upstairs & down, common restrooms, and the showroom/sales floor. Sometimes the mechanics use the common (public) restroom and leave everything greasy and black... even the toilet! Salesmen love to eat and the trash is always full to the brim with the left-overs. They commonly drop food on the carpet (yes, it is a carpeted showroom) and just leave it there... the pizza was the worst, face down, cheese hardened to the carpet. The owner himself eats sunflower seeds and spits the shells everywhere! Just when you think you gottem all, you find more. Just about every time we visit, it looks like they partied all day long!
Natalie
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Post by Crowz on May 28, 2005 13:23:28 GMT -5
John... that is my husbands & father-in-laws name. Kingman is a smaller town. One of the things we hear most from clients and perspective clients is that their past or current cleaning/janitorial service is unreliable and/or doing a poor job. We founded Crowz on the basis of reliability, integrity, and quality. One reason for the bonds we carry.... basic janitorial, honesty, neglegence. There is little competition here for commerical. There is a lot for residential. My John dislikes residential... have had customers who want to stand behind you and tell you how to mop the floor, want you to mix bleach & amonia in the toilet, use their raggedy towels and so tiny squeeze dry sponge mops, or use there ever so difficult to use powerless vacuums, and so on. Very frustrating. We keep a list of people who clean residentials for referral... but they are usually unlicensed with no bond. Anyway, we do not advertise in the yellow pages here either because it takes 2 years to get an ad published... by then we will have grown, moved, or (God forbid) gone out of business. Well, advertising is an issue for another forum topic,isn't it?
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Post by Crowz on May 27, 2005 12:51:06 GMT -5
I agree with Mr. Markey. I have learned first hand that if you give an inch they take a mile. Sad, but true. It is rare that you find someone who actually appreciates the effort. Most come to expect more for free. This is why I have started using Specification Sheets and Service agreements. We cleaned the lobby carpet of one of our current clients this week. When we arrived on the job, there was a note (no, it wasn't the chiropractor) asking if we could spot treat in another room where a strawberry smoothie had been spilled the day before. John decided we would not charge bcuz we were not sure the stain would come out and stay out..... NO CHARGE was included on the spot treat on invoice. Two days later John called to ask if they were satisfied with the job. He spoke to the owner of the business. She loved the lobby but hadn't noticed the spot in the other room so asked the receptionist if it did indeed stay out.... she said it was still there. Well, we did our regular cleaning this AM and looked for the spot to re-treat. Couldn't find a thing! Hmmmm.....
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Post by Crowz on May 16, 2005 21:49:23 GMT -5
Our first commercial account, a chiropractic/accupuncture/massage facility, we were told that the Dr.'s residence had to be included and billed as an office cleaning.... no problem, we could do that, but when we went on estimate of the place we were asked to change sheets on her bed (which is only about a foot off the ground and hell on the lower back to make) but we accepted anyway. Bad call.... she leaves notes on the days we clean asking us to do things that were never agreed to. We are already earning only a mere $9.00 an hour each on her home. So, I finally left her a note on letter head (with a business card attached) asking her to call 48 hours in advance if she wants extras, and if she doesn't want to pay then something else we normally do will be skipped for that visit. No more notes so far! No calls either....
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