Commercial Or Industrial

[Kevin]

When do you classify a job no longer commercial, it becomes industrial.

[Extended Arms Cleaning]

when the scope of work is out of control

[Kevin]

So would you say heavy amount of grease or carbon dust? Or just a really bad commercial?

[CleaningChick]

I would say that any of those factors could cause the account to be categorized as industrial.

[Kevin]

So then what exactly is Industrial Cleaning? just a phrase a selling point?

[RJ Cleaning]

I do alot of industrial and this is what I consider a industrial plant.
it is almost like clean outlook said.
I consider an industrial if there is more than one building and its a production, example:
one of my accounts the production building, the building itself is kinda big, maybe 150k but of course we do not clean the whole thing.
we clean the2- labs, 2- breakrooms, 20-office, 5-bathrooms, 2-shower and locker rooms. 3- long hallways, all stairways. theres more but csnot remember right now. and it scatered thruogh out the building. the cleaners have to be wearing a uniform, close toe shoes, safety helmets, safety eye wear, and ear plugs in order to enter building. your working around there staff, plus fork lift trucks driving by. so safety has to play a good role.
the second building is 60k sq.ft.
there is over 40 office, 2 conference rooms, breakroom, 4 bathrooms, 5 lab rooms, front entrace waiting area, mail room, copy room and shredder room, storage rooms, flooring is 60% carpet 40% VCT
employees again must be wearing clean uniform, dressed properly, speak english reason, there is alot of comunicating with there staff.
the third building is 10k sq.ft.
2 restrooms, 20 office, front desk and waiting room, lab rooms, breakroom, rest open space of lab work area mainly carpet.
there more in the buildings but that was to just give an idea. and yep you are usally working around employees in the office building area also, usally secretarys, sales people, accounting, administrators, corperate people, who ever is there.

same with my other accounts that I consider industrial. there usally chemical companys, paper mills, large manufactoring companys ,ect, but there is usally more than one building. some of them have there own street.
one of them you actualy have to drive to each building, there close to each other, but just not close enuogh to walk.
the word Industrial just defines it more, commercial can be anything. but I call commercial anything thats in one building,
for example I have some companys that have the factory and all office in 1 building. maybe running from 40k to 100k. I call them commercial.
industrial also cannot be down by one person, were as commercial can.
I have some doctors office that usaully have secretary area, waiting area, 8 exam rooms, breakroom, doctors offices. I just call them an office. condo and apartment complexes, there small commercial.
some people sometimes confuse the word industrial, for example I had a phone call they said they had a industrial plant in this town, ask me to come down the following week for a meeting to price and talk, well I was YES another. I went there, the friggen place was not even a industrial, it was what I call small commercial, they were a small manufacting company.
can be cleaned in 2 man hours. I was pissed, because I put my best suit on, breifcase folders everything, I was ready, and excited. I still got the account, but I guess they felt they were an industrial, but they definitly were not. most industrial cannot be priced by sq.ft. most of the time 9 out of 10, they do not have the measurement. and there is no way you would have the time to measure it. again you also have to take into consideration as clean out look said, "Productivity is lower as you add in the amount of people you will be working around and the level of dirt, greast, etc generated in an average day" and you would be shocked how dirty they get in one day.
and with an industrial you have to make sure you bid it correct, because it could hurt if you under bid, or screw up and lose the acount fast. reason the cost to set up, and employee cost, to keep it going till you recieve a check could be from $4000. and up. I had some accounts that cost me around $7000 and up, till the money started coming in from them.
but that is what a good cash flow is for.

I hope this info gives you an idea of what industrial is kevin.

[RJ Cleaning]

simply way to say it.
any big manufacturing buildings.

[russo]

when the scope of work is out of control is a very funny answer.. i agree!

[Linda]

Not to mention the language and the lack of self respect Industrial to me has no professional
surroundings other than the offices in the front of the building. You can get very dirty doing Industrial work also. I work in a paper bag company in the evenings (cleaning) and it is Industrial. I am a little bitter with my job at this moment. sorry

Linda

[rclllc]

heavy duty truck repair centers, i believe are considered industrial too.

[Mr. Clean]

Where I work my employee's refuse to be called Janitors, because (in their words) although they do clean rest rooms, windows, carpets, strip and wax, etc. all commercial type cleaning, They also clean machines and equipment dust collectors and mist collectors etc so by knowing how to properly clean all types of machines and all their components, rather it be with a power washer, dry ice machine, or foamer. This they tell me is why they our an Industrial Cleaning Team [/b]
Jim