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Post by debi5257 on Jan 15, 2006 10:38:34 GMT -5
Just got a call to clean an theatre 3 times per week after the shows. I just looked it up online to see what it looks like and it seems quite large. I have to meet with the owners to see what they want done tomorrow, but this would be my first commercial account and I don't have a clue as to what to charge. Helpppp!
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Post by RJ Cleaning on Jan 15, 2006 16:54:51 GMT -5
you will need to get the size and what they want before determining the price.
I'm very surprised they only want 3 days a week. a lot of them
are 7 days a week, cleaned after theater closes. they don't pay a real lot in my area. there sort of like pricing restuarants.
which could average between $16 to $18 per hour.
you could use a good leave blower to blow the stuff down to the end of the theater room.
is there any info as to the size of each theater room, and how many they have on there website?
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Post by debi5257 on Jan 15, 2006 18:45:20 GMT -5
This is for an opera house. There are 3 shows per week and they want it cleaned after each show. I meet with the owners tomorrow so I will have more information as to size and what they want done.
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Post by russo on Jan 16, 2006 4:02:26 GMT -5
rj cleaning: good idea w/ the blow down cleaning. a true time saver!
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Post by jdinstl on Jan 16, 2006 4:12:20 GMT -5
Debbie...
I'm in the same boat sort of regarding commercial -- it's my achilles heel. Swing over to the mentors forum and get yourself an IJCSA mentor. My mentor has been awesome, and will be looking over my shoulder as I prepare to bid a restaurant for occassional deep cleanings. (No kitchen work whatsover RJ -- I remember you mentioning that before)
This restaurant has potential to be a good springboard for commercial, I'm ever-so-thankful to have that experienced mentor!
Cheers, and good luck getting the job!
John
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Post by debi5257 on Jan 16, 2006 18:13:48 GMT -5
John
Thanks for the advice. I met with the owner today. She is not sure of the size of the room, but I figured it was around 4500 sq. ft. It didn't seem that difficult. lobby floor to sweep, office to vaccumm once a month, men's room 6 stalls, 7 urinals, ladies room 7 stalls, sweep auditorium, empty trash, vaccumm stars dressing room, also another room to vaccumm. There are 3 shows per week and one matinee. I gave her a price of $425.00 per week. I hope that I didn't go to high or to low. What does everyone think?
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Post by Grizzly on Jan 17, 2006 9:59:59 GMT -5
Good morning:
I know that i keep harping on this but it is a basic credo to be successful in business. Calculate your labour expenses + material costs (and be picky here because everything you use costs you money) + employer expenses (if you have staff) + profit = amount to charge. It is difficult to comment on prices because they will vary from city to city even from area to area within the city. Also differing list of specifications, etc. . Bottom line if you have taken care of the basic formula above and are comfortable with the profit it is providing you then the price is good. Also you need to be aware of competition in the area but not to the point that it changes the above formula. Those basic criteria should drive every pricing decision you make.
Bill
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Post by jdinstl on Jan 17, 2006 15:34:22 GMT -5
*Nodding* Yup Bill....and doggone it, that's just it. Being fairly new I need to weigh potential discounting against paying to work the job. Accurate and appropriate expensing + employer expenses + potential future expenses (it's just me now, but if down the road I hire someone, there's labor and its overhead) + this + that = jdinstl ripping his hair out in chunks. And at age 41 I'm losing hair as it is...when I'm not full bore into a primal scream!
I know it will get better down the road with experience in this. I like number crunching and all that, I feel fairly confident with my residential pricing formula and procedure -- but commercial is a different playing field.
And about that competition -- in some cases, it can be all over the map, I'm finding. I wonder what they used to come up with some of the figures...a dartboard? The license plate number of the next car they saw? I pity the customer having to wade through that along with ensuring the bid includes what they want done without having to file bankrupcty. Or if the bid is attractively priced and includes what they want -- will the service survive to next week?
Keep harping your mantra!
John
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Post by Roman Cleaning Services on Jan 17, 2006 19:53:24 GMT -5
Good morning: I know that i keep harping on this but it is a basic credo to be successful in business. Calculate your labour expenses + material costs (and be picky here because everything you use costs you money) + employer expenses (if you have staff) + profit = amount to charge. It is difficult to comment on prices because they will vary from city to city even from area to area within the city. Also differing list of specifications, etc. . Bottom line if you have taken care of the basic formula above and are comfortable with the profit it is providing you then the price is good. Also you need to be aware of competition in the area but not to the point that it changes the above formula. Those basic criteria should drive every pricing decision you make. Bill Labor expense is the staff wages, right? When factoring materials, just and in what you spnd in supplies? How much profit is too much profit? |
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