Post by krystalkleen08 on Aug 21, 2008 11:56:58 GMT -5
Q:I have a 7 floor 180 room hotel how many days will it take to complete depending on how many workers I provide for the job what would make sense for this job? How many days , hour per day etc . Please help!!!
Q:when a job is sub contract out to another cleaning business do I use my insurance or theirs?
From my understanding , your insurance and workers comp will not cover sub contractors unless it is specifically for sub contractors. You should get certs for their liability and workers comp with you as cert holder. It should be up to date. You will need this in case of audit from insurance. You should also have a sub contractor agreement form signed. There are some great ones in the forms section on IJCSA for full members.
How many people??? Its according to how fast you want to get done. It is also according to specs; How dirty/dusty they leave it; If there are stickers on comodes and windows; What level of clean they want; what type of surfaces you are cleaning; If building is empty or if workers are persent; what equipment you have to work with; how good are employees; and so on.
Post by salamander on Aug 22, 2008 12:10:27 GMT -5
Hey Dan do you ask what level of clean they want? I didn't know their was different levels of clean when it came to bidding a job. I did have one superintendent tell me one time that he thought i was trying to get the job to clean, so i asked him how clean he wanted the job and all he could say was just clean you know remove all the dirt, dust and construction debri. I just laughed and walked off.
No matter who cleans it seems like you can always find something that got missed. Some contractors that hire out construction cleaning are very particular while others are just wanting to pass an inspection and only want enough cleaning to do so. After you do a few you start to get a feel for the particular ones and the not so particular. I have even told some that we could lower the price if we did not have to get everything spotless. Most of them want a lower price and the only way I will give them a lower one is to give less work on the job. Same goes on my office cleaning. We tell them how much money and then we negotiate on how clean they want it. Same for floor maint. Do they want it to always look shiny and new or do they just want it to look good enough to get by? I always have said to Do your Best to Be the Best. I will go another step by saying , " Do your Best to Be the Best for what(how much) you are being Paid to Do." Example: a couple of years ago I was asked to bid on a nice size office cleaning job. I was told my bid was to high. I then proceeded by saying, We can lower the price if we take off some of the duties required. They came back and said. What if we only want carpets in each office vacuumed on a as needed basis and you didn't dust any shelves where figurines and things of that such were sitting. Also that you do not have to clean any desk that does not have items moved to the pad in the middle of the desk. We can also do some of the areas that they specified done only once a week and some only three times a week that had been specified to be done 7 days a week. Well with that new level of clean we were able to work with there budget.
Every new client is going to want all they can get. I think it is best if you offer them a couple of options for there money.
Its kindly like going to the grocery store. You can buy a good quality bleach that is high concentrated or if you don't want to pay extra for that than you can buy the off brand more diluted bleach which appears the same, but in the end you just cant expect it to do the same.
So in my opinion , Lesser Level of expectations = lesser cost= equals sales to a certain market who want to spend less.
An add on to my previous post. I am not saying to cut corners because you bid a job to low. If you tell someone you are going to do something for a certain amount then you should do exactly that and no less. The only time you should do less is if it is specified and in writing. The areas or levels of clean to be done should also have an optional price offered. That way after an inspection or punch list is done, then if requested to come back you can charge for those items.
One negative side to this is the fact that some going into a building or business you are cleaning , may think the cleaning service is not doing there job well. That is where you have to decide if it is worth taking that chance. Just make sure that all parties involved know that you are doing what you get paid to do and if they are not happy then you would be glad to add more service onto your contract for more pay.